No one said it were exceptional that way. The Windigo had a knife and he'd cut the boy on the hand to see if he was fat enough to eat, but the boy didn't get fat. [20], Among the Assiniboine, the Cree, and the Ojibwe, a satirical ceremonial dance is sometimes performed during times of famine to reinforce the seriousness of the wendigo taboo. And FWIW, I've read stories that disturbed me & even disgusted me but the author has the right to tell their story whether I like it or don't. ". I won't pretend I know everything about NA culture, but I believe that headresses and that kind of finery is only used on special occasions and was not how ordinary NAs dressed all the time. It sounds like you did research which is more that J. K. Rowling so I think yes? And some natives don't care at all. As a creator, I believe it is my responsibility, the responsibility of any creator, if using characters that belong to a culture other than mine and exploring themes from that culture, to be accurate. I believe cultural appropriation is Only when someone of another 'race' or culture creates something and passes it off as if it is authentic. In their most recent music video for 'How You Like That', fans spotted a Ganesha idol kept on the ground, in the background of the music video. Certainly Navajo "skin walkers" are one of the more common Native American legends that non-native writers reference (the only other example I can think of that comes close is the Algonquin Wendigo), but like I said, it would be presumptuous of me to guess at Rowling's research style. The Wendigo may be a figure from American Indian mythology, but it belongs to all of humankind. I would refuse to be shackled by political correctness. Just as the vampire and werewolf do not belong exclusively to people of European descent and the Mummy doesnt belong to Egyptians. Halloween is literally a holiday (most Americans see it as a good excuse to dress as a sexy cat or whatever, but there are actually still people left who believe it's sacred and who perform rituals etc for the holiday). Political correctness started out as one thing, a good thing. Key elements of culture include: language art,. Posted By : / actual instructions in flowcharting are represented in /; Under :nose exercise before and afternose exercise before and after Guillermo del Toro, producer of the film, developed the wendigo on the basis that the more the creature eats, the more it gets hungry and the more it gets hungry, the weaker it becomes. And unfortunately for them, this isn't the first time. Windigo psychosis may well be the most perfect example of the construction of an Aboriginal mental disorder by the scholarly professions, and its persistence dramatically underscores how constructions of the Aboriginal by these professions have, like Frankenstein's monster, taken on a life of their own. Ill admit, my initial reaction was very dismissive. I would advise anyone, however, who feels that way about my choice to create art or literature based on a wendigo, to simply avoid my gallery and writing. It can serve as a metaphor explaining any pattern of domination by which groups subjugate and dominate or violently destroy and displace. No it isn't cultural appropriation, as long as it is researched and accurately presented in the story. Even before it went live, she was being criticized for her apparently blatant cultural appropriation of Native American folklore, and since publishing the criticism has only grown more pointed. In addition, for many Indigenous peoples and local communities, making traditional clothes is a source of income; as such, cultural appropriation can . It is unknown if it would have been an entire species or a singular creature. If you need to flag this entry as abusive. Cultural appropriation refers to the use of objects or elements of a non-dominant culture in a way that reinforces stereotypes or contributes to oppression and doesn't respect their original meaning or give credit to their source. Privacy Policy. And we merely follow".[38]. The novel describes its primary antagonist, a rapist whose violent crimes desecrate a sacred site, as a wendigo who must be killed because he threatens the reservation's safety. without permission.1 They're monsters. [13] They were strongly associated with winter, the north, coldness, famine, and starvation.[14]. The Wendigo, also known as the Hollowed, was a type of Creature of Grimm that was proposed to appear in the animated webseries RWBY. In addition to characterizing individual people who exhibit destructive tendencies, the wendigo can also describe movements and events with similarly negative effects. He has written, produced and directed (and occasionally acted in) over a dozen plays, most of them in the Horror and Crime genres. Cho isn't even only problematic character, Lavander changed her race (in movies, i'm not sure about books but still, Rowling could of said something). For Indigenous peoples in Canada, cultural appropriation is rooted in colonization and ongoing oppression. Nitty gritty. MORTUI VELOCES SUNT! So it seems to me like the objection might have something to do with an inappropriate mixing of religious contexts from two different belief systems. I will draw whatever I feel like drawing. so no, if you're some white kid hearing crying in the forests of california you're not being "lured into the Idiots have just made a religion out of being racist about culture and only allowing genetic descendants to participate in cultures. Dollightful's Apology: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wW-KBzKWvrUTo clear up the addition that I made even more, I think that it would be pretty important for the information on this topic to be easily accessible to her viewers. But I do notice that Eyre stopped short of saying colonialization is the origin for the Wendigo legend. Cultural appropriation by a dominant culture is harmful to underrepresented cultures because it reduces cultural significance and reinforces double standards. So, thanks, Dave! In my blind quest to represent everyone, all I did was reinforce the problem. The legend of the Wendigo is, in fact, one of the oldest manifestations of a taboo peculiar to most human societies, and which was already widespread among Anglophone tribes: cannibalism. does not have antlers or have any wolf features. How stupid to think otherwise. The beautiful maang tikka, or hair accessory falling down the part in the middle of the hair, marks a . Truly insensitive cultural appropriation is when you're taking a part of another culture and portraying it in a deliberately insensitive or disrespectful manner. These bonnets are symbols of warrior achievements and are the equivalent of military medals. [26][27] During the winter of 1878, Swift Runner and his family were starving, and his eldest son died. Ojibwe scholar Brady DeSanti asserts that the wendigo "can be understood as a marker indicating a person imbalanced both internally and toward the larger community of human and spiritual beings around them. I read some stuff yesterday saying that teepees are cultural appropriation and there was a long post about how wendigos arent cryptids and how stories about them are cultural appropriation. In 1661, The Jesuit Relations reported: I dont know who originally posted it, or where. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. As much as I would love to tell everyone to just read her sources and then be able to understand everything better, I just don't think that's realistic for most people(because they are not easily accessible to most, and I don't think that was her intention by including these in her description. As a concept, wendigo can apply to situations other than some Native American-European relations. Mexicans: Cultural Appropriation PragerU 3.01M subscribers Subscribe 85K Share 2.2M views 4 years ago What is cultural appropriation? [16] Whenever a wendigo ate another person, it would grow in proportion to the meal it had just eaten, so it could never be full. As described by the Native American Cree legends, they were humans who have been mutated into cannibalistic monsters after being possessed by the Wendigo spirit, causing them to eat the flesh of other humans. But I do know the actual description of it. As a concept, the wendigo can apply to any person, idea, or movement infected by a corrosive drive toward self-aggrandizing greed and excessive consumption, traits that sow disharmony and destruction if left unchecked. BTW, I love rainbow farting unicorns! Topics: I have always felt a distinct emotional connection to it, in fact. That's just pulling a potential explanation out of my ass, though, I have no idea if its accurate or not. "** 40. In a report from the Contemporary Folklore conference covered in issue 388 of FORTEAN TIMES, the go-to magazine for all things paranormal, weird, or unexplained, a complaint is voiced about the cultural appropriation of the Wendigo, likening it to the sexualization of the Mothman statue in Point Pleasant, West Virginia. By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. The game I will be going over in this is Until Dawn, a horror game made by Supermassive Games, made . Thats just asking for trouble.) We have to stop guarding cultures and subcultures in efforts to preserve them.. The Wendigo (Also known as windigo, weendigo, windago, waindigo, windiga, witiko, wihtikow, and various other names including manaha) originates from Native-American legend, and is said to be a demonic half-beast as told by the Algonquian peoples along the Atlantic coast of the United States and Canada. hbspt.cta._relativeUrls=true;hbspt.cta.load(443401, 'c61f3219-a9f3-4b0c-95ea-f614a80c184b', {"useNewLoader":"true","region":"na1"}); Pictured above: A portion of the poster for the film Antlers (Fox Searchlight, 2021). Magazine with fellow environmental thought leaders, LaDuke said: Theres this conflict between the cannibals and Mother Earth, and its going on everywhere. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. "[36] Out of equilibrium and estranged by their communities, individuals thought to be afflicted by the wendigo spirit unravel and destroy the ecological balance around them. Sentences like "The Native American wizarding community was particularly gifted in animal and plant magic" are cringe-worthy if you give them a little thought, and the notion that only European wizards were clever enough to invent wands, which make magic "more precise and more powerful" borders on horrific levels of cluelessness. The protection of minorities from the materialization of the majority's different thoughts is an asset of democratic constitutionalism. As a result, in 1907, Fiddler and his brother Joseph were arrested by the Canadian authorities for homicide. It too is cannibalistic; however, it is characterized as enlightened with ancestral insights. If Hello Kitty and the Minions from Dispicable Me being considered acceptable Halloween costumes wasn't the exact point I stopped taking Halloween seriously as a holiday, Wendigos being considered a form of disrespectful "cultural appropriation" was. [2], Although distinct from how it appears in the traditional lore, one of the first appearances of a character inspired by, or named after, a wendigo in non-Indigenous literature is Algernon Blackwood's 1910 novella The Wendigo. Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. Learn how your comment data is processed. Second, he determines the relevant issues as "aesthetic" and "moral," and then discusses the most prominent arguments that surround each type of appropriation. He ultimately was granted a pardon but died three days later in jail before receiving the news of this pardon. You are also agreeing to our Terms of Service and Privacy Policy. A classic example is wearing a Plains Indian war bonnet (see the 80s band The Village People). There's too much variety of opinion on the question to obtain a consensus. So yeah, if anyone could offer any insight/information, thatd be appreciated. No one can try to stake a singular claim to it. More Than Monsters: The Deeper Significance of Wendigo Stories, often presented apart from its original cultural contexts, At Facing History and Ourselves, we value conversationin classrooms, in our professional development for educators, and online. The idea that diversity and representation can be addressed simply through a "balance between four guys and four girls" or through the removal of "traditional phallic stabbing" troubles me. I can't say for sure how much research Rowling did when writing her series, but others have pointed out that it doesn't seem like much. I have to look! Have you encountered wendigo stories in films, television shows, or books? Beyond Forbes, other Native American thinkers have also used wendigo stories to present critical perspectives on various social problems and call for their resolution. But if they actually did, I would pick another monster from the giant Pandemonium one has at one's choice. New replies are no longer allowed. I do not know whether Algonquin People indeed consider Wendigo depictions in mainstream media so culturally sensitive or taboo as the "woke" in your lead comment implied I would somehow doubt it but do not know for sure. [56], Various characters inspired by the legend, or named for it, appear in Role-playing video games, such as 2018's Fallout 76 by Bethesda Game Studios, where wendigos are featured as one of the cryptid enemies found in the area of Appalachia, mutated from people who consumed human flesh in isolation. The line between what differentiates cultural appropriation from cultural appreciation can be razor-thin, not to mention highly . I wouldn't be offended if someone dressed as a stereotypical Scottish person whatever that looks like lol. His first novel, THE CONFESSIONS OF SAINT CHRISTOPHER: WEREWOLF, is available for purchase at https://www.smashwords.com/books/view/734763 Wendigos specifically represent the very real threat of starvation and what moral depths a person will sink to to avoid starving to death in the hard, cold de Continue Reading More answers below KEY OOY The Wendigos are the ultimate antagonists of Until Dawn. I mean yeah I see what your saying, personally I do research on what its about even if I don't use it in it's entirety. "Why is indigenous culture suddenly more sacred than any other culture?". Wendigo) from its cultural context and its movement by non-Indigenous creators (a large majority being white) into a space of the horror genre that displays negative or antagonistic qualities. wa, which may have meant "owl". I believe that the Wendigo is far older than that, far more primal. During a panel at YES! Okay, dont anybody get me wrong. It only becomes cultural appropriation when an element of culture is adopted from a marginalized group without respect for its cultural meaning or significance or with the purpose of exploiting the culture If I don't, I'll never know what it is I'm so angry about! It was forbidden to resort to this practice, even out of desperation. [31][32] Others have pointed to a number of credible eyewitness accounts, both by Algonquians and others, as evidence that Wendigo psychosis was a factual historical phenomenon. As researchers, most of us are lost in a wilderness filled with Windigo, Skinwalkers and various other indigenous cosmological entities, and we need to recognize we have no idea what we are talking about. The appropriation, and reclamation, of Native American mythology', Journal of . [47], Other creatures based on the legend, or named for it, appear in various films and television shows, including Dark Was the Night, Ravenous , The Lone Ranger (2013),[48] and the 2021 film Antlers by Scott Cooper, where the wendigo is portrayed as a deer-like creature with a glowing heart that moves from person to person with a never ending hunger. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. I am so offended! Replying to @luciproletariatfox #culturalappropriation #wendigoon, #yeti #wendigo #voodoodoll #culturalappropriation, #duet with @firelotusthewitch #culturalappropriation #vvitchtok #vvitch #witchywoman #pagantok #norsepagan #norsetok #pagansoftiktok #pagancommunity, I am curious to hear the opinions of others on this one. One of those advisors I just mentioned, Chris Eyre, had this to say of the Wendigo: They [meaning Native peoples] truly, truly believe in it, because it represents greed and colonialism when we first came to the shores of what is now America, and pillaged all of their resources and forced them [into] cannibalism. That, I would affirm, is truly and literally cannibalism, and it is cannibalism accompanied by no spiritually meaningful ceremony or ritual., More than a commentary on the life of wendigo stories amongst his own people, Forbes deploys the metaphor of the wendigo to advance nothing less than a critique of civilization at large and describes the violence that he argues lies at its foundation as one driven by a kind of wendigo psychosis. I think every idea can be taken to an extreme and distorted to the point where it is ridiculous. This ailment attacked our deputies; and, as death is the sole remedy among those simple people for checking such acts of murder, they were slain in order to stay the course of their madness. Since the concept of a wendigo stems from First Nations folklore, maybe someone making a cute little doll of this evil spirit figure was seen as inappropriate or making fun of their culture? The Indians asked the Windigo if there was any fat on them. arent cryptids thing. Ten years later, "cultural appropriation" is no longer an obscure academic term . Only assholes think thats offensive. People were not really using Google until the 2000s and that kind of info might have not been available in the 90s. [30], Fascination with Wendigo psychosis among Western ethnographers, psychologists, and anthropologists led to a hotly debated controversy in the 1980s over the historicity of this phenomenon. [28] He eventually confessed and was executed by authorities at Fort Saskatchewan. The windigo, however, continues to seek revenge for this attempted scholarly execution by periodically duping unsuspecting passers-by, like psychiatrists, into believing that windigo psychosis not only exists but that a psychiatrist could conceivably encounter a patient suffering from this disorder in his or her practice today! In Ojibwe, Eastern Cree, Westmain Swampy Cree, Naskapi, and Innu lore, wendigos are often described as giants that are many times larger than human beings, a characteristic absent from myths in other Algonquian cultures. It was created by Mayuki . Character can be mean, evil or complete asshole but you still should be respectful while writing said character. When I got over my initial bout of self-defensiveness, I realized I was totally wrong. spellings (see Colombo 2) but is most commonly rendered as Windigo, Wendigo, or Witiko. Romantic scholar and documentarian Emily Zarka, also a professor at Arizona State University, observes that two commonalities among the indigenous cultures of Algonquian language family speakers are that they are situated in climes where harsh winters are frequent and may be accompanied by starvation. "Cultural appropriation refers to the use of objects or elements of a non-dominant culture in a way that reinforces stereotypes or contributes to oppression and doesn't respect their original meaning or give credit to their source. I agree with some of it to a point, but disagree with most of it. The wendigo -- a creature from Native American myth -- carries powerful symbolism and is presumably sufficiently mysterious to keep enough audience members guessing at its motives and abilities. MORTUI VELOCES SUNT! Western capitalistic expansion and cultural appropriation (see . :)Looking to buy some stickers or look at some pictures of my art or my other things? PSA: These 11 Halloween "Costumes" Will Always Be Offensive. identity. "To the people present, it was suspected that Moostoos was becoming a 'Whitego', an insane person capable of murdering and cannibalism.41 To the natives without jails or asylums, there was only one thing to do. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. [33], The frequency of Wendigo psychosis cases decreased sharply in the 20th century as Boreal Algonquian people came into greater and greater contact with European ideologies and more sedentary, less rural, lifestyles. Their visitations speak to the inseparability of human experience National identity is irrelevant to this borderless horror. It's a term for what happens to people who for one reason or another turn to eating other people. J.K is weird for using name like that, it isn't hard to google names, i know she wrote books before internet was as "popular" as now, but i honestly doubt that she couldn't find name and surname of east asian person, she could of used names from either celebrity ( use surname of one and name of other or something like that), she could of used name from character from some book, there were ways of finding name that isn't bad as Cho-Chang, also i find it a bit weird that said character is in "smart" house, feels way to stereotypical for me. It just looks like a human that may be bigger than normal. It's taking those cultural. The use of the creature in horror stories . Enter your email address to subscribe to this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. . I do not know, nor can I. Contributors control their own work and posted freely to our site. Create what you want; let the audience decide its fame. And that's exactly the problem. Twenty-five miles away from emergency food supplies at a Hudson's Bay Company post, Swift Runner butchered and ate his wife and five remaining children. Native Americans, Our headquarters are located at: 89 South Street, Suite 401, Boston, MA 02111. These things feel formulaic, quantitative, mathematicbalancing equations and subtraction. And besides that, it never hurts to include your sources. Wendigo Cannibalism in Native American Folklore. Pet Sematary is an important cultural artifact thanks to King's widespread popularity and recognition as a horror writer. Marvel Comics pay tribute to classic Monsters. What makes the wendigo any different from other culturally important mythological creatures like unicorns? (Anything that isnt outright vandalism isnt likely to harm the statue at all, but I wouldnt dare do anything disrespectful around it. If ANYTHING is disrespectful to woke (does not exist in the real world) culture then I say: DO IT - AND DO IT BIG!!! That taste of human flesh, which out of that rose the wendigo.. The latest addition to this lineup of wendigo tales is Scott Cooper and Guillermo del Toros horror film Antlers (2021) in which a Native American character provides some brief exposition before the story centered around a white community contending with the monster begins in earnest. From Stephen Kings Pet Sematary to the television series Hanibal, the flesh-eating image of the wendigo is often presented apart from its original cultural contexts where it carries deep moral significance. I would not care much about what a statistically likely personally unrelated "woke" thinks about what Algonquin descendants may think about it, but only what Algonquin descendants. (1961). The Indians then killed him and cut him to pieces. I don't don't value cultural pluralism. Don't tell lies to those Indians." 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Check it out here:https://youtu.be/fHE4fkvUpWMI really just made this video to express how I am currently feeling about the wendigo doll situation and the questions I have about it. [23], What caused us greater concern was the news that met us upon entering the Lake, namely, that the men deputed by our Conductor for the purpose of summoning the Nations to the North Sea, and assigning them a rendezvous, where they were to await our coming, had met their death the previous Winter in a very strange manner. Tell us about it in the comments. https://www.deviantart.com/forum/community/complaints/2611618/. Im just struggling to understand the significance of it. One recurring theme across these storytelling mediums is the use of the wendigoalso spelled wtikoa monstrous figure from Algonquian mythology who exhibits an insatiable greed along with a desire for human flesh. Appropriating the Wendigo As it so happens, I am currently working on a project involving a Wendigo, so this is personal to me.
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